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Extraction with sox

Hello, I would like to ask for information on ginseng extraction.

First I put the photo on your extractor:

Sohlet extractorSohlet extractor

  • Instead of a spirulina, I already have a heating nest.
  • Frita is practically filled with dirt. Like alcohol, I used 60% pharmacy and I now use 40% old-fashioned (with aniseed silica).
  • I leave the extractor out of the rule for 4-5 hours. I use 30g of Siberian ginseng and 250ml of 40% alcohol.

Questions that I would like to ask:

  1. How much do I actually have a concentrated tincture? It does not mean me to compare it and how it is comparable to what is being bought on the market. Tin cure has a relatively dense yellow color after extraction.
  2. Will some substances be broken down by long-term heating, or at what time? I tried to reuse the finished tincture again to extract another 30g (I knew the solvent was recycled) of ginseng. The resultant product was already brown in color, and a fairly difficult sedimentation sticks to the walls of the flask. The known person subjectively described such a tincture as a feeling of minor effect.
  3. Is it real to create a greater concentration of tincture, or does it make sense? I saw syrupy concentrates on the chest

Finally, I would like to write that I do not have full-fledged high school knowledge of chemistry, it's just my hobby since my childhood. But there is no problem learning something. At twenty-six years it's easy to climb my head. I do not know anyone with the necessary knowledge about the ginseng-owning extractor.

Sincerely, Martin R.

Hello, Martine,

I have a weakness for the laboratory glass, and your extractor looks right in the textbook ... When I wrote about the extraction of ginseng drugs on Soxhlet's extractor , I did not think there were so many real professionals interested in professional methods.

Eleutherococcus extraction on Soxhleth

Used plant material

Your material is otherwise suspiciously similar to one just asked by a regular reader who bought it from Salvia Paradise. Please do not call him ginseng, but eleuterokok, otherwise it will confuse with real ginseng. When I use the term ginseng in the following text , I always think Panax , the so-called " Siberian Ginseng " , I mean as eleuterokoccus ( Eleutherococcus senticosus ) .

Custom extraction

You make it right that you fill it in the extraction vessel to the edge, because rather than a herb, herb , it is wood, lignum (perhaps) eleutherococci senticosi , which swells only a fraction of its volume.

  1. Yellow carotenoids may appear yellow. Tincture do not compare anything, just mark out how many grams of drug comes from 100ml tinctures and you have it. If your drug is fine, then you can trust your own tinktura more than the products on the market.
  2. Chemically relatively simple eleutherococcus I studied less in detail than ginseng. I feel, however, that they will be able to withstand the extraction of their active substance for four to five hours without serious harm. I would like to allow the eleutrook to be heated to 100 ° C for up to 2 hours and your 90 ° C evenly 4. The temperature can be further reduced by increasing the alcohol content or by extracting under reduced pressure. I know that in ginseng (right), panaxosides are removed from the panaxosides by heating them, but otherwise the etheric bonds hold Jewish beliefs. Even if they hydrolyze, it is not a disaster, those hydrolyzed forms are also effective. Hydrolytic cleavage of saponin residues also occurs after digestion in the digestive tract, where the milky bacteria often irradiate up to the aglycone. For ginseng (right) there are two main aglycans panaxoside PPT and compound K, and these are also highly effective, for example against hangover . (Eleutherocok, unfortunately, I do not have such a bad look.) What you stick to the walls would seem to include phytochemical nomenclature among the "substances of bitter nature" :-), what exactly can be, I do not know. I do not think this is the result of longer heating, rather than breaking the boundary of solubility of something in the mixture of alcohol and water, which then returns to the glass. Bituminous sediment is not welcome because it can pull some of the active ingredients. Try if it does not dissolve in a higher alcohol concentration. It's not a 100% chance, for example, Canadian balsa must be xylene for a permanent preparation of protocols, but it can do that. Perhaps you will have to increase the concentration of alcohol again. As far as the subjective assessment of the effect of eleutherococcus is concerned, this is hardly in my view, but I do not want to say that it is impossible.
  3. I would say that the syrupy products you've come across are syrupy rather because of the addition of viscosity-increasing substances (alginates, gelatin or other tricks) rather than because of their high concentration. However, the hydrophilic viscous carrier can also have a positive effect by entrapping the molecules of the contents in the solution (rather than sticking to the glass). Just so I do not talk too negatively about something I do not know.

In summary, from your experience, it would appear that the concentration of alcohol and the reasonable strength of the tincture is limited in the case of woody eleuterokok with the presence of gums that are not a problem with ginseng.

To college knowledge of chemistry ...

As far as the study of chemistry is concerned, do not worry about it at all. Rather, think about experimenting not only with expensive entertainment, but also with something positive that brings you something, which is a problem harder than chemical-engineering calculations. If you are interested in practical chemistry, you can study the theory later. Then you will understand that you are not studying for a piece of paper, but in order to better understand what you already know from practice.

-boris-

| 17.1.2011

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