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Idiopathic jaw pain

Dear Master, I am addressing you with the following request. I will try to describe my problems briefly. Thank you in advance for expressing your opinion, I really appreciate it.

Two and a half years ago I suffered from left ear middle ear, treatment was longer, my head still remained tinnitus. About half a year later, the back teeth of the left upper jaw began to hurt - no one found, one of them was dying and then pulled out. Then the pain subsided, and in the next half-year they started in the upper upper jaw, the lower left and right jaws, the back teeth. All the seals, the wise men, the discovery, and the inflammation were replaced. Again he tried (another dentist) to die the tooth, but again he was followed by extraction. Therefore, tooth decay is not a solution. The pain is changeable for two years everyday, sleeping at night. In the day, sometimes stronger, sometimes weak, for a moment it also stands and moves from place to place behind the back teeth. I have a neurological examination of the magnetic resonance - the trigeminal nerve has not been confirmed, the other is not found, the blood results ok, according to the ENT it is not possible for the left ear inflammation to show such problems on both sides. No one has been able to help me yet, I do not know the cause and I am desperate. I am 32 years old and psychologically it is demanding. I tried homeopathy, herbs, tinctures, neurological drugs, and antidepressants I do not want to try or enjoy. Even the healer did not come to my cause, I usually got vitamins, lecithins, etc. One gentleman told me that there might be a problem in the cervical spine or thyroid gland - the blood and sono samples are in the norm. I go to the massage and already to the master who unlocks the point of the spine. Thank you for your opinion, time and everything. Zdravím B.

Dear Mrs B.,

the chance that you are successful with the advice is small. I would have to be a clairvoyant to dare to distract from the distance the unsuccessful healing efforts you have undergone. That's what better candidates are in the White Carpathians. They know herbs and folk lines. The latter are still better than homeopathy because they do not cover their magical nature at least as false science, so unlike homeopathy, they do not have to deal with Sisyfos (see pdf ). 48.950984 ° North latitude, 17.895546 ° East longitude, ask for Genoveva name. I do not want to reduce homeopathy, it is basically an instant version of traditional magic and we owe it to the water memory hypothesis ( Poitevin2008cmm , Teixeira2007cwp ) and the magical hypothesis of nonlocal quantum correlation ( Milgrom2008ngd ).

I do not know anything

I have only a certain knowledge of (lower) physiology and a certain knowledge of the medical backstage due to the family, so I'm not surprised that your toothache was not of inflammation , nor the diagnostic and therapeutic confusion you've been through. Now that we have explained that my answer is not a medical diagnosis or treatment prescription, but just a laic private opinion, I can close my eyes and start guessing. First of all, I would argue that the idiopathic, variable back pain of the teeth you suffer from is of a nerve origin and is probably related to a history of middle ear inflammation, although your Otorhinolaryngologist thinks the opposite. This is also indicated by your tinnitus, which, as I have already written in other answers , should not be ignored as a banal sign. Tinnitus may be a pure ear affair, but it may also indicate that there is something wrong inside the brain . And that's also all I'm sure of telling you about your pain, because what exactly is the god knows just about. (God's name is Asklepios, perhaps he would add Zdeněk Kratochvíl. )


Let's say the middle ear inflammation was bacterial. "The treatment was longer ..." = resistant bacteria? Combination with viruses? Immune problem? You may have been treated with second-line antibiotics. Amoxicillin with clavulanate? Ciprofloxacin? Eventually, the lion's share of work has also led to your own immune system . "The treatment was longer ..." = those microbes you had scattered around your middle ear, maybe even deeper. Whether or not they found it in the brain, or not, the microglie was certainly alert. The neurons certainly did not benefit. Your brain could also damage your antibiotics - it's what ciprofloxacin needs to do in the job. It's nice that magnetic resonance has not found anything - at least you know it's no bigger tumor or abscess. (But if they did not overlook it.) In any case, problems with molecular level tomography will not be revealed. Your immune system may have entered the conscience because of the inflammation, he has begun to try and bother the neurons. And, after all, your Otorhinolaryngologist may have the truth, and the pains associated with the inflammation are related and not necessarily - it can be a completely independent disease process. An important consideration would be if the pain improves or worsens over time - one-off damage should be improved, the continuing illness process will be worse. Your question is not quite clear. You have experienced middle ear inflammation 2.5 years ago, the first pain occurred after six months, then the pain subsided, and others appeared for the next six months? We have 1.5 years left, but you are saying that the pain is "already 2 years a day". It does not fit a bit. That's probably going to get worse.


The cycloxygenase inhibitors (paralen, ibuprofen, aspirin ) you've probably tried are probably not working. If they do not, do not use them unnecessarily. You have also tried "herbs, tinctures, neurological drugs" - this is a broad definition. What else do you mean by antidepressants ? Probably you were testing something serotonergic. Serotonin uptake inhibitors? GABA agonists, popular sleeping pills? Or the opiates they might have taken, like Alnagon? Codein from Alnagon slowly changes into morphine and replaces chronic pain with chronic morphinism. I know exactly what you're talking about when you say it's "not going to try or use". I am also the kind who will take pain for a year rather than go to a doctor :-). You are surely waiting for me to recommend ginseng - yes, try a quality 6-year ginseng as you try everything else. Maybe he will. Your pains are strenuous, but with ginseng, those miracles happen occasionally. His neuroprotective and centrally analgesic effect has already been described in part. Ginseng will also help mitigate the negative effects of long-term opiate use , if you decide for them. You write that "herbs and tinctures" you tried - but the herbs recommended for pain is a huge amount! Only in the Register of Traditional Chinese Medicine is herbal remedy against various pains at least fifty! Almost all kinds of diseases sooner or later cause pain. Most "anti-pain" herbs, whether central or foreign, actually do not block the pain itself but treat specific diseases. In your case, the pain seems to be nervous and more central, so none of these specific herbs will help you.

And shot from the side - herbs against migraine

The closest targets are migraine herbs. I know there is not a thing about right migraine , but I can not make any better recommendations. Your idiopathic jaw pain is not in the list of illnesses and it is hard for her to do such a search as I did for asking about gastro-oesophageal reflux . Using her intuition from the Medline database statement unmistakably (For non-humorous readers: I hate.) I choose Hibino2008gtj for traditional herbal remedies for migraine. The publication comes from honest Japanese (Japanese herbal medicine Kampo is a branch of TČM), and let's see, both of the herbal mixtures described on migraine contain ginseng. The simpler mixture, besides ginseng (2 parts), contains Zimchis Zizyphus (4 parts) , ginger (1.5 parts) and Tetradium ruticarpum (3 parts). Ginger to buy a young, chop on thin slices or threads, Tetradium do not know where to get. The mixture is prepared as a broth (about ½ hour) in sufficient water. The second, more complex Japanese blend (so-called chotosan or kotosan) contains ginseng (2 parts) and ginger (1 part), but also many other drugs: Uncaria rhynchophylla (3 parts), citrus (mandarin) (3 parts), Pinus tiger ( Pinellia ternata , 3 parts), Ophiopogon japonicus (3 parts) , Coconut Poria cocos (more recently Wolfiporia extensa , 3 parts), Saposhnikovia divarcata (2 parts) , Chrysanthemum morifolium , 2 parts), and Chinese licorice ( Glycyrrhiza uralensis , 1 part). In a Japanese magazine I forgot to name, it is reported that the success rate of this combination is 80% for headaches , 60% for sleeping disorder and 35% for primary hypertension .

Practical options

If you'd like to try these mixes practically, you'll probably have trouble compiling them. The Chinese licorice may be replaced by our licorice lice ( Glycyrrhiza glabra ), the mandarin fetus bark would be replaced by any chemically untreated citrus bark in need. But even with a perfectly prepared mixture according to the prescription, the result in your case would not be guaranteed. Try first the ginseng, 5g a day in the form of a broth, 3 fruit of the cicicum and 3g of finely chopped or grated ginger. Pour into ¾ liter of water, cook about 30 minutes, drink warm for 20 days. The long-term vascular and gingival effects of ginseng have to wait for months, but in your case, it should be clear within 20 days if the ginseng blend has or does not have a chance to alleviate your pain. I would also try a royal jelly in your case-just if your pain was caused by the death of regenerable neurons. The mother-of-pearl has recently attributed a strong effect on regeneration of CNS neurons.


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